Monday, June 12, 2006

How to get health care in Canada

Step 1: Get sick
Step 2: See a doctor
Step 3: Find out you will have to wait a dangerous amount of time to get treatment
Step 4: Go to the media and complain
Step 5: Get treatment

The latest story:

Vander Schelde had to fight hospital scheduling to get her daughter’s surgery within the two-week time frame recommended by a pediatric neurosurgeon.

Because Children’s Hospital of Western Ontario and other London Health Sciences Centre hospitals do not staff operating rooms on long weekends, Olivia was going to have to wait for three or more weeks for surgery on a tumour discovered a week ago.

After Vander Schelde took her story to the media, the hospital arranged to find time for the operation Tuesday.

The good news is the child got the surgery she desperately needed. The bad news is that someone else had to be bumped back in the line in order to make it happen.

That sound you don't hear is the silence of the health care demagogues.

19 comments:

Robert McClelland said...

It's too bad conservatives are playing politics with the lives of Canadian children. There's a simple solution to this problem. Stop starving the system of funding so it can hire more healthcare practitioners and build more hospitals.

Cue the rebuttal from the bean counters.

Farmer Joe said...

It's never going to happen in any meaningful way until individuals are allowed to decide for themselves where the money should go(aka-the free market).

In case you haven't noticed Rob, Lib's and Dippers do equally as bad a job as Conservatives when it comes to public healthcare.

Kelly J Gessner said...

Hey, Farmer joe, when are you going to get behind individual choice when it comes to where the taxpayer food dollar should go...aka-farm subsidies (definitely not the free market)
Sheesh, there ain't no hypocrite like a right-wing hypocrite. How do you guys sleep at night?

R.S. Porter said...

Kelly J, you are like a broken record. Your continual use of the fallacy of diversion is laughable. But you realize that you have no solution to healthcare so you continue to attack Farmer Joe over things unrelated to the topic at hand. How do you wake at dawn?

Robert McClelland said...

It's never going to happen in any meaningful way until individuals are allowed to decide for themselves where the money should go(aka-the free market).

Ah yes, the old free market magic wand theory. You know, over the past two decades we've seen all kinds of privatization efforts yet I can't think of one that has delivered on the promises that were made to sell it. Sorry rube, but until there's a bona fide free market success I'm not going to be in a rush to hand over my healthcare to the delusions of free market fantasists.

Kelly J Gessner said...
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Kelly J Gessner said...

Look, Porter, if you're gonna tout the "free market" as a panacea for healthcare, then the same rules should apply for the socialistic programs the right holds near and dear.
I awake bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, ready to make my way in the world by my own efforts. How 'bout you?

David MacLean said...

Yeah Robert -- a couple successes just popped into my mind.

In Manitoba -- MTS. In Alberta-- Liquor stores, vehicle registries. In BC -- train lines. In Saskatchewan -- Potash.

Farmer Joe said...

Good 'ole -Kelly "mary jane" Gessner- queen of the straw dog.

I have never been in favour of farm subsidies(or tariffs for that matter) never said that I was, and have made that clear to you in prior posts.

Stick to the subject or buzz off.

David MacLean said...

Yeah -- I noticed the name change, too.

Kelly J Gessner said...

Wow, nothing escapes you fellas.

Farmer Joe said...

Nice examples David, but think a little bigger.

How's about the kind of global and historical context as can be found on page 22 of the executive summary found here.

Looks like a lot of people found that 'magic wand' mcclelland was talking about.

And you know what that means, its not theory, its fact.

Cue further denial of reality from the twilight zone

R.S. Porter said...

Look, Porter, if you're gonna tout the "free market" as a panacea for healthcare, then the same rules should apply for the socialistic programs the right holds near and dear.

What socialistic program do I hold dear? What socialistic program does Farmer Joe hold dear? Even if we did, you're still ignoring the question.

I awake bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, ready to make my way in the world by my own efforts.

Except in healthcare--the government has to do that.

Money Bags4Me said...

Boy you got that one right porter, there is no way in Canada for the Gessners of the world to get by on their own efforts when it comes to health care.

Money Bags4Me said...

Joe has got a good link there, but I think one of the best examples of how the free market works to constantly improve things is personal computers.

They are constantly being improved, faster, more powerful, greater storage capacity, easier to use etc. while at the same time becoming cheaper and more accessible.

If governments controlled computers the way they control healthcare we'd still be in the age of punch cards and tube powered, building size mainframes.

Farmer Joe said...

Good point, computers and internet conections are now so cheap that everyone can afford to use them.

leftdog said...

"How to get health care in Countries without a Public System (like we used to in Canada before 1964)."
Step 1: Get sick
Step 2: check your wallet
Step 3: check your line of credit
Step 4: Go to the hospital and explain that you would pay if you could.
Step 5: Die

David MacLean said...

And what country does this take place in, Leftdog? Name one industrialized country that this happens in. Does this happen in France, Sweden, Singapore or Japan?

Farmer Joe said...

The silence from leftdog is deafening.

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