Saturday, May 13, 2006

Urban Reservations

The CTF has long opposed the creation of urban reserves. The reason, is the CTF believes that in a free market system all participants must be on the same playing field subject to the same rules. This is not the case with native reservations, therefore, native reservations do have an unfair competitive advantage.

In today's Winnipeg Sun, Tom Brodbeck points out many of the reasons why the unfair advantage exists.

11 comments:

Robert McClelland said...

the CTF believes that in a free market system all participants must be on the same playing field subject to the same rules.

The CTF lives in fantasyland if it thinks this. There's no such thing as a level playing field in the free market. What there is however, are racist douchebags who pick on Aboriginals--the poorest group of people in Canada--because they've got an advantage even though everyone else has an advantage of some form or another.

R.S. Porter said...

There's no such thing as a level playing field in the free market.

You have no idea of free market economics is. You must understand that people don't agree with your Marxist ideal of complete economic equality. The First Immigrants have the same access to the market as everyone else, the market does not descriminate--all they have to do produce a product the market wants.

Robert McClelland said...

Shorter r.s.porker: You must understand that we overprivaleged white men have all the economic advantages and we'll be damned if we're going to tolerate the redman having any.

R.S. Porter said...

You completely missed my point, but that’s to be expected from someone who thinks that changing words makes him a master of the witticism.

I know that being a loyal socialist makes you a self-loathing white, but the rest of us don't want to follow in such a direction.

The market itself does not discriminate. I did not say that there were no issues that prevented people, such as the First Immigrants, from benefiting from the market. There is most certainly is current racism in addition to the long standing social problems that contribute to the current state of affairs. The difference between an individualist and a collectivist, like you, is that individualists believe there needs to be more access to the market, not subsidies and handouts. No one—and that includes white people—benefit when people are excluded from contributing to the market.

You can try and slyly suggest that I am a racist who wants to keep the "redman" down, but you couldn't be further from the truth. I want each and every person to prosper. What I don't want is your entitlement society with stagnant economic growth.

Chad Moats said...

R.S. Porter, you speak as though the market reacts on its own, when the market is a combination of people's choices, not an entity itself, therefore if a large portion of the "market" decides to not spend at a business solely based on race, where is the equity or the level playing field, or the non-discrimination.
The market can discriminate depending on the beliefs of the actors within it. It is not an entity.

Calicos said...

What there is however, are racist douchebags who pick on Aboriginals--the poorest group of people in Canada--because they've got an advantage even though everyone else has an advantage of some form or another.

Of course everyone has different advantages in life Bob. The difference here is this advantage is legislated by a government that’s supposed to treat everyone the same regardless of race. Nice try at twisting the argument though.

The Austrian said...

therefore if a large portion of the "market" decides to not spend at a business solely based on race, where is the equity or the level playing field, or the non-discrimination.

What kind of person, assuming they are racist, would not choose the business that provides the higher quality products and/or servives at the lowest price, or not make any other mutually beneficial business transactions based on racial criteria? An idiot I would think, and as the old saying goes "A fool and his gold part quickly".

In other words, the free-market naturally eliminates racial discrimination by preferring those individuals who buy and/or sell to anyone regardless.

Charles said...

The reserve system forces aboriginals into a collectivist system, that fits white people´s idealized view of the noble savage. This view of aboriginal people goes far back in european popular culture. We must break with this madness, and free aboriginals from the shackles of the Indian Act. Indian reserves should be abolished, the land transferred to individual Aboriginals and transformed into regular municipalities.

Farmer Joe said...

Rob, you are free to write as many cheques to as many aboriginals as you want, if you think that you are more priveledged. Just use your own money.

R.S. Porter said...

I couldn't agree with you more Charles.

R.S. Porter said...

One last thing, though I completely disagree with urban (or any) reserves, I also disagree with smoking bans by government—so, in this instance, I disagree with his premise, but agree with the conclusion.

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