Friday, March 24, 2006

CTF to CRTC: Say no to SaskTel

The CTF has asked the CRTC to deny SaskTel's application to operate a community channel.

56 comments:

Brick Wall said...

If it's tax money SaskTel is spending then why am I getting a bill for the services, shouldn't my tax dollars pay for my phone bill ?
Or am I paying for a service that just happens to owned by the government ?

sask.taxpayers federation said...

Sasktel creates it's own money. It is funded from fees and phone service just like a private company. Unlike a private company it returns a dividend to the province. It is not subsidized by the taxpayers contrary to what the opposition says.

Anonymous said...

It is plain and simple,we will never have a thriving private sector if they always have to compete with a government Crown.

Anonymous said...

Sasktel will model these community channels on the ones being used in Belarus today.

right to work said...

A company with 407 million debt should not be paying most of their profit {dirty word} in dividends and only retaining 6 million of the profit. 26 million of interest is a lot to pay

Brick Wall said...

Yeah, like some mant private companies are pulling dividend payments to pay debt, the trend is the other way.See income trusts.

Anonymous said...

SaskTel is owned by the Government of Saskatchewan, and therefore, the people of the province of Saskatchewan. All of SaskTel's operations, employees, funds, equipment, and property belongs to the people of the province of Saskatchewan.

It is absolutely appalling to even suggest that "[Sasktel] is not subsidized by the taxpayers" when nothing could be further from the truth. The taxpayers of Saskatchewan subsidize SaskTel immensely, through the provision of capital at below-market rates and by accepting dividends that are far below dividends paid by their competitors.

The people of the Province of Saskatchewan pay higher than necessary taxes and utility bills because of the public ownership of SaskTel, SaskPower, and SGI, rather than private sector ownership. The return on investment, and return on equity for the NDP-run Crowns has absolutely been pathetic, and is a joke compared to returns from comparable private-sector utilities from other provinces. The people of Saskatchewan are paying an enormous price for the 'priviledge' of owning a large number of innefficiently run government-owned enterprises.

Anonymous said...

"Unlike a private company it returns a dividend to the province."

Private companies pay taxes to the province, and do not need to rape the government's treasury every time they want to enter into capital expansion plans, pushing up the province's borrowing costs.

Whats better? A vibrant private sector paying lots of taxes to the province, or a bunch of wasteful Crowns that pay paltry dividends to the province?

Anonymous said...

"26 million of interest is a lot to pay."

But who gets that interest? I suspect a lot of that interest is paid to people who are saving for retirement (through RRSPs or pensions), people who invest in Government of Saskatchewan bonds, and others.

SaskTel and most corporations borrow money because they believe that they can invest in investments that will provide returns that exceed the cost of borrowing. In the case of SaskTel, while they may pay $26 million a year in interest, the money they borrowed has allowed them to generate returns far in excess of $26 million, thus generating some profit for the owners.

Nothing wrong with that, its exactly how business all over the world operates. The only problems that occur is when demand for the product dries up, or a business is inefficiently/poorly run (ie: Meadow Lake Pulp and Paper). Then the lenders get burned, and the owners (equity holders) lose everything.

sask.taxpayers federation said...

Sasktel is under the watchful eye of the rate review board. Private providers are not cheaper and charge whatever the market will bear. Ask your friends in other provinces what they pay. Sasktel is always under attack from the private sector because they want the buisness. Sasktel is on of the most efficient corp. in the world.It's a good deal for taxpayers.

Anonymous said...

"Sasktel is under the watchful eye of the rate review board."

All phone companies in Canada are regulated by the CRTC and must file and obtain approval for rates.

"Private providers are not cheaper and charge whatever the market will bear."

Is that why many private insurers in Alberta are offering me, on their websites, auto insurance quotes cheaper than SGI offers, for equivilant coverage?


"Ask your friends in other provinces what they pay. Sasktel is always under attack from the private sector because they want the buisness. Sasktel is on of the most efficient corp. in the world.It's a good deal for taxpayers. "

SaskTel, SGI, and SaskPower are terrible deals for the people of the province of Saskatchewan for the reasons I have outlined earlier. Saskatchewan residents have some of the highest utility bills, and the highest rates of taxation in the country due to the government's wasteful forays into providing services that could easily be provided by the private sector at a lower overall cost.

LT said...

As a SaskTel employee it is good to know that I am owned by the taxpayers of Saskatchewan. I've checked for the bar code on my body and I have yet to find it but I will let you know when it surfaces.

It is also good to know that we are being ripped off by Crowns. Especially with the second lowest utility rate for a bundle in Canada (If I recall correctly Manitoba beat out Saskatchewan during the last measurement).

As for the original intent of the post (aka local community programming). Two things:

1) The money used for community programming will come from money that is currently paid into a fund created by the CRTC to support Canadian programming. So, instead of giving it away to the CRTC it will instead go to production companies in Saskatchewan to create community programming.

2) As for peoples fears (aka the Belarus comment) I'd be willing to bet that when SaskTel has community sports and what not available there will be no commentary regarding 'government yeah!' or 'Socialism woo-hoo' or for that matter, '2-4-6-8 I think the NDP is great'. I'm surprised that any of the posters on this board even visit the internet given the rampant paraniod dillusions you all seem to suffer from.

What do I know though. I am just a slave of the province and I must be just espousing the rhetoric put forward by my master, 'Yeh-sum masta I done told them whats you directed. I'sa be a gud girl. Now sir cans I pleze hava drink o' wata?"

As for SaskTel itself: Competition has been free to come into Saskatchewan for years. Local competition too (not just LD). Shaw offers local access in their other territories and they know what SaskTel charges for local access and would charge for VoIP (because in your free competitive society the CRTC mandates that SaskTel give that information away - and that when Shaw decides to move in SaskTel can't contact them for a year although in a reverasl of circumstances Shaw can do what ever they want - sure seems fair and competitive to me).

Some of the other comments on this thread interest me further regarding what a company should do. I won't get into it but it just goes to show that there is little understanding regarding how business actually works (regarding debt, dividends, cost of services, etc.)

Anonymous said...

I don't think that the "taxpayers of Saskatchewan" own Sasktle, I think that it's the other way around!
And cellullar coverage is terrible in Saskatchewan, it is better in some third worl countries; i was told by someone in planning that the reason is thAT Sasktel has kept out the competition that actually knows how to provide coverage.

Anonymous said...

"So, instead of giving it away to the CRTC it will instead go to production companies in Saskatchewan to create community programming."

Like that phoney-baloney Tommy Douglas movie that depicted another former Premier as a drunk, rather than the abstainer that he was? The one that conveniently forgot to talk about Tommy Douglas' beliefs concerning eugenics and the position and role of handicapped citizens play in society?

"As for SaskTel itself: Competition has been free to come into Saskatchewan for years."

Not really, as SaskTel pursued an anti-competitive access policy and actually procured exemptions from the CRTC far in excess of what was usual practice throughout the rest of the country.

And without getting into a lot of technical details, SaskTel rates for high speed data transmission products haven't ever been competitive with offerings available in the rest of the country. Sure, its great to advertise cheap residential consumer Internet access, but rates on the types of products businesses use (T1, T3, Ethernet, etc.) aren't even close to being competitive. The average voter doesn't know what a DS3 line is, but the high provisioning and service costs of SaskTel for business customers drive IT-related businesses away -- hurting the economy, hurting our chances to attract good quality jobs in the sector.

Anonymous said...

"As a SaskTel employee it is good to know that I am owned by the taxpayers of Saskatchewan."

If you are a unionized employee, try stopping the union dues deductions.

If you are a management employee, get on John Gormley's radio program and start offering an opinion of the doofuses who occupy the NDP benches in the legislature. (technically not your 'owners' right ??)

I think you will quickly find out that you are in fact 'owned' by the Government of Saskatchewan.

Sask.taxpayers federation said...

We have in Sask. some of the lowest utility rates in North America. What statistics are there to show otherwise? They pay more in Calgary and Edmonton. That is a totally false statement. Anonymous go blow it out your ears. We do not get gouged here in Sask by our utilities. Compare your bill with your Alberta bill. The rates for power in Alberta change with the wholesale cost of gas which can be monthly. Why do you think the Alberta Gov't gave rebates a few years ago?($1200.00) The rates were outrageously high. Look that up in your Funk and Wagnal Anonymous. Check your facts before you spout off about something you know little about. Do your homework.

Sask.Taxpayers Federation said...

Where do you get the idea that Sasktel is 400 million in the red? That's a crock. You're just against Crown Corp. You know nothing about rates or debt. You're just spouting off like the Sask.Party used to. Get rid of crowns.Why? Just because.No real reason just to be different.

Anonymous said...

"We have in Sask. some of the lowest utility rates in North America. What statistics are there to show otherwise? They pay more in Calgary and Edmonton. That is a totally false statement."

One really has to compare apples to apples, oranges to oranges when comparing Alberta rates with Saskatchewan rates.

Insurance rates from SGI are comparable between Saskatchewan and Alberta for comparable levels of insurance coverage. All too often, SGI supporters compare a very basic package of insurance, the basic plate + insurance combo, with an insurance package in Alberta with a reduced deductible for a 16-year old brand-new Camaro driver. Hardly a relevant comparison.

As I stated earlier here, plating my car in Alberta would cost exactly the same as in Saskatchewan, in spite of the fact that insurance should naturally be more expensive in Alberta because of busier roads and a higher statistical probability of loss.

"We do not get gouged here in Sask by our utilities. Compare your bill with your Alberta bill."

A few dollars more a month in electric bills is hardly a burden compared with the much higher taxes of Saskatchewan. Higher rates also mean that people conserve. With costs escalating rapidly in the construction of the oilsands due to a shortage of skilled trades, do you think that SaskPower will be able to rebuild its infrastructure at anywhere near projected costs? At least Alberta rates are set on a market basis, where business professionals, not partisan government committees, determine levels of investment and re-investment required to sustain and increase production as required.

"The rates for power in Alberta change with the wholesale cost of gas which can be monthly."

You can buy fixed-rate contracts from the utilities, or use other financial means (futures contracts, investment in utilities) to mitigate the impact of such price increases.

In Saskatchewan, if people feel gouged, they expect politicians to solve the problem. In Alberta, if gouging occurs, its viewed as a business opportunity for investment in the sector (which eventually removes the gouging). Guess which philosophy has created more economic growth?

"Check your facts before you spout off about something you know little about. Do your homework."

I've done my homework, and quite frankly, hundreds of thousands of others in Saskatchewan have done theirs by either moving to Alberta, or supporting political parties that want to stomp out this nonsense.

The proof....is in the pudding.

Anonymous said...

SaskTel debt:

$369 million (long term debt)
-$141.5 million (cash/short term investments)

Net Debt = $227.5million

Average Interest rate = 7.9% in 2004.

Source:

http://www.sasktel.com/about-us/company-information/financial-reports/attachments/04-annual-report.pdf

We could have an argument with respect to whether assets are being carried on SaskTel's balance sheet at appropriate valuations (ie: for instance, how much is SaskTel Max really worth, if it doesn't meet its subscriber goals and loses subscribers because of its lack of HDTV capability). But lets try and keep things factual here.

sask.taxpayers federation said...

What has that got to do with the fact that Sasktel,Saskpower and Saskenergy offer a great service to the people of Sask? I don't see your point. You are spouting off that these utilities are not making money. That's just more right wing rhetoric. As I've said before I feel like I'm talking to munchkins."The streets are paved with gold and you never ever grow old" Pay a private firm to deliver services we already have. Ya that's your philosophy and that's all.

David MacLean said...

I am always impressed with how the government-owned phone company can kick up debate. It's amazing.

sask taxpayers federation said...

How much is Sasktel worth? Too much to the people of Sask. Why sell something we own? Basically you think phone companies and all utilities should be in private hands. Big buisness would love that. They would be laughing all the way to the bank.What I don't understand is because you say so therefore it is.

sask.taxpayers federation said...

Why do people like Anonymous want to sell everything to the private sector? Why sell a utility that helps pay for programs. Big business looks after big buisness. They don't give a damn about people, workers or the environment. The people pay more taxes all the time to subsidize big business and anonymous thinks that's good. I don't know how you think. Unless you are the owner of a large corp.

Anonymous said...

"Why do people like Anonymous want to sell everything to the private sector? Why sell a utility that helps pay for programs."

Why? To save the people of the province of Saskatchewan money, and to enhance economic growth through tax reductions and reductions in the cost of utilities.

Read the article on this website about liquor privitization, and the experience in Alberta with liquor privitization. Overall revenues to the Government of Alberta rose, while hundreds of additional jobs were created. Liquor is less expensive, and operations are more competitive with each other, leading to better selection, and more appropriate hours and locations.

The argument "helps pay for programs" is total nonsense. Taxes pay for programs. Instead of dividends from Crowns, the government could be collecting taxes from private businesses. Either way, the government gets its money, and the programs continue. Plus with more quality jobs created because of a competitive marketplace, and more economic activity, there would be a much larger tax base to collect from, as opposed to the limited tax base present in Saskatchewan today.

Anonymous said...

"I don't know how you think. Unless you are the owner of a large corp. ?"

Ever contribute to a pension plan? A RRSP? CPP? Or even own a mutual fund?

Chances are, you are one of the owners of a "large corporation" competitor of a Crown. For instance, Transalta competes with SaskPower. Telus, Shaw, Rogers, and Allstream/MTS compete with SaskTel. Manulife, Sunlife, Great-west life, TD Insurance, RBC Insurance, ING, etc. compete with SGI. And other companies compete with Saskenergy.

Should your tax dollars be used to compete against your own businesses, against your own retirement savings? Sounds pretty counterproductive to me.

Brick Wall said...

Ok, wait a minute here. SaskTel has not recieved government dollars since start up. At this point, and for a long time now,their investments, wages, capital costs have been self sustaining and the wealth created from this enterprise is paid into the governments revenue pool through a dividend. A very high dividend, let's call it a social dividend. No where in that equation is the net dollars going to SaskTel, they are being returned to the government. If you want low taxes, keep the crowns and liqour otherwise $800 million in revenue is lost. Think that will be picked up with an increase in corporate taxes ?

Anonymous said...

"Ok, wait a minute here. SaskTel has not recieved government dollars since start up."

SaskTel (or other Crown corporations) don't pay taxes to the government. The avoided taxes are a massive subsidy from the taxpayers of Saskatchewan.

SaskTel's use of the provincial treasury to fund capital expenditures also has other negative effects. For instance, the borrowing costs of Saskatchewan are higher than necessary because of SaskTel. And if you believe many industry experts, traditional telecos are in trouble over the long run if they cannot adapt. With SaskTel being such a small telco (serving 1M people, in a North American market of over 300 million), the chances of it being left in the dust technologically are greatly enhanced.

"A very high dividend, let's call it a social dividend. No "

Private sector telcos, for instance, Bell Canada and Telus, pay dividends as well, and pay taxes.

Paying taxes to the government is the ultimate form of 'social dividend'.


"where in that equation is the net dollars going to SaskTel, they are being returned to the "

SaskTel pays no taxes, costs the province extra because of the inflated provincial debt, and pays a paltry dividend. A private corporation pays income taxes, various royalty/franchise taxes, pays interest payments to people saving their money for retirement (bondholders), and pays dividends to the owners.


government. If you want low taxes, keep the crowns and liqour otherwise $800 million in revenue is lost. Think that will be picked up with an increase in corporate taxes ?

Absolutely. Along with a reduction in government debt servicing costs, and an increase in jobs (which bring in even more tax revenue).

The Alberta liquor retailling experience is ample proof of how privitization of government-owned enterprises not only nets the government more in the long run, but also enhances quality of service, reduces the price to the consumer, and leads to more employment.

Anonymous said...

Crown liquor Board stores are an embarassing joke!

And it's interesting to note that while SGI subsidizes bad drivers, SK has higher rates per capita of accidents, including injuries and fatalities, than do other provinces. Think these facts could be related?

Brick Wall said...

Yes, consumers get cheap booze, the government gets more liquor taxes, but what are the high costs of the low prices ?
The wages of the employees !
How much less are they making or does that matter ?

Sask.Taxpayers Federation said...

Booze is not cheaper in Alberta. I've been there. They have sales on one or two products a month. Many times prices are higher than in Saskatchewan. You are full of right wing manure. There are more liquor stores that's all. Alberta does the bare minimum for consumers. Alberta is in a constant boom.......what happened to all the heritage fund? Alberta is a good example of a government that spends out of control. When you consider there are close to 3 million people in the province with a government that has had no real opposition ,how much do the people really benefit? Taxes are lower,housing is higher(2X),utilities are higher,healthcare premiums(500.00 a year) car insurance is no bargain. The cost of living high in Alberta is high. I make 42,000.00 a year. It goes further here in Sask than it would in Alberta.........and it does. You are Ok Mr.Anonymous as long as you are among your small dead Tories. There has not been a Tory Gov't,past or present that was worth while. Alberta spends a lot of tax dollars staying in power. All the past leaders seem to retire to Palm Springs. How come? Shrewd investing or shrewd embezzleing? I wonder. With no opposition we'll never know. Someday when the bottom falls out of the oil patch Albertans will be in for a rude awakening. Does Alberta ever open it's books for auditing/? Not in this life.

Sask.Taxpayers federation said...

You blogging Tories are all the same. Union busters,homophobic,sexist and racist. How the hell you get elected at all is anyones guess. You sell off anything that helps the people and tell them it's good for them. How do a bunch crooked buggers like yourselves sleep at night. If the NDP did 1/2 the crooked crap you guys do they'd never get elected. That one civil servant involved with embezzlement at Social Services had a criminal record from her last job and was still hired by the Devine Tories. I think Brad Wall will let up a little on the latest round of criminal action against a few civil servants. He should not point fingers at the NDP because his tories were 100 times more crooked under Devine. Could you imagine if we had drunk like Klien in the NDP what the media would do? Not with Uncle Ralph he's OK now. Bullshit. I have friends in Alberta they tell me he's a drunkin dictator. You Tories have the Morals of a monkey. None nor a concience. You force people to be dishonest just like the USA. You make me sick. You are soooooo stupid. But I guess people like hearing stupid more trying to think about issues.

Anonymous said...

"You sell off anything that helps the people and tell them it's good for them."

Explain to me how turning SaskPower/SaskTel/SGI into income trusts and selling them doesn't help the people of Saskatchewan?"

Billions of dollars of capital flows into Saskatchewan from the outside world, Saskatchewan's debt is paid down, taxes lowered, and the government can make much needed investment in public infrastructure such as highways that are clearly badly in need of repair. Those are the advantages of selling off the major crown corporations.

One of the big problem with the Crowns as well is the relative lack of diversification of risk. For instance, when the government owned SaskOil -- when oil crashed, not only did the government lose royalty revenues, but it was left holding shares in a business that was bleeding red ink. Much of the debt that was incurred while the Devine PC's were in power was because of this -- being that the government overconcentrated as both the recipient of royalties, and the risk-taker insofar as development was concerned.

Similar story with uranium. Similar story with SaskPower -- in fact, SaskPower now has a very significant stranded asset (the power lines to the Meadow Lake Pulp Mill) that will have to be written off, causing higher electrical rates for all Saskpower customers.

As far as 'crooked' is concerned, one needs to only look at the inherent conflict of interest the Sask NDP finds itself in with respect to political contributions from public sector unions. How much did the Sask NDP receive from public sector unions, unions that represent employees of the government. Answer me that one, smart guy before you start talking about tory fraud, corruption, and self-dealing.

Anonymous said...

I think that there are closer to 4 million people in Alberta now; the crazy guy said that it was almost 3 million.
Think small, old-timer! vote NDP! shop only at the co-op!and watch jobs and SK kids continue to move to Alberta.

David MacLean said...

Well, so much of what you STF and Brick is saying is barely worth commenting on. But I will anyway. As you know we have of an office in Alberta and we dislike much of what is happening in Alberta right now.

However, Alberta has the most transparent financial systems in the country. They do have a provincial auditor and they do open their books. In fact, they were the first to even approach using Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. And there is still billions in the heritage fun (8.5 billion? Scott?). They have been foolishly stripping off interest earned on the heritage fund to fund health care.

We think Alberta is a disaster right now, but your comments about that government simply aren't true.

David MacLean said...

STF, can the bullshit. I'll have to kill your comments from now.

Brick Wall said...

CTF censorship a prelude of the type of country, they wish us live in.

David MacLean said...

This is our site, and we don't have to tolerate the kind of childish name calling STF is up to.

sask.taxpayers federation said...

You're just mad because the NDP government makes the Tories look bad. The NDP turned this province around from debt ridden to surpluses. Right Mr.Anonymous?

Brick Wall said...

Yeah,OK, MacLean.
Transperency and accountability for everyone but the CTF. Let's play a fun game, let's substitute site for country.
This is our COUNTRY, and we don't have to tolerate the kind of childish name calling STF is up to.

Anonymous said...

STF:

You bring shame to your side of the debate. People with morals and convictions debate based on true belief and respect for others' views.

You are truly intolerant and what a shame for what you believe in. Insults, sweeping generalizations, etc. is sad my friend.

To quote from the movie "Menace to Society..." - I feel sorry for your mother.

-Willard Teevens
Woodstock, ON

Anonymous said...

As for you Brick Wall:

IF you think acting like a child should be tolerated in the name of transparency, you obviously miss the point about mutual respect, etc.

I come to this blog to stand up for what I think is right. Those who come to be the stick in the spokes about EVERYTHING are just that.

Fun to be a troublemaker I guess - some of us are trying to right Canada which has been on the wrong course for far too long.

-Willard

Sask.Taxpayers Federation said...

To anonymous you had Mike "The Knife" Harris in Ontario you should know about bad government.

Anonymous said...

Harris was great. He inherited a royal mess from the NDP and turned the province around - back to the economic engine of Canada.

In fact, if you want to talk about bad government, Bob Rae and his big government/big spending rump ensured that the NDP will NEVER govern in Ontario again. They are a 3rd place fringe party - as all NDP parties in Canada should be.

Go Mike Harris - the good old days - when politicians were honest, decisive and not beholden to special interests.

Tommy Douglas said...

I have been convinced by some intelligent and well reasoned debate to revise my position on Crown Corporations: I have been convinced that teh world has changed, that Saskatchewan has changed, and that we must reconsider what we have been doing with the Crowns. I ahve bene convinced not only by the well reasoned and intelligent argument against the Crowns, but also by teh mean-spirited and overzealous diatribes in favour of the Crowns; this kind of anger and blind hatred is not what I wanted. Open your eyes and you will see, althought the light can hurt at first!

Sask.Taxpayers Federation said...

I suppose Anonymous that you also think free trade is good for Canada. All of our social programs have been under attack since free trade.Even you have probably benefitted from some of them. Are you a student? I'm off with surgery. You don't sound like someone who has had a lot of job experience.

sask.taxpayers federation said...

If Harris was so great why did he leave such a mess behind him. Every Tory Gov't says they inherited a mess. Which one besides Albeta balances the books? I don't think you can name one. I have to admire your loyalty. Eastern arrogance costs Canada a lot of money because you determine the ruling party. I wish you would elect a government that likes people and supports them. Tories do not do either.

sask.taxpayers federation said...

I think we should let Sasktel have a community station. We need more competition. We don't have much. Cable has a monopoly that's for sure.

Anonymous said...

And what social programs would you suggest have been under attack because of free trade?

One could argue that free trade has been a force in strengthening social programs in Canada -- by allowing the economy to pay for them in the first place! Much of Ontario's industrial base (and tax base) would not exist if not for free trade. Alberta would not have access to adequate levels of capital to build the oilsands megaprojects if not for free trade. Most of your imported items would cost a lot more because of a lack of free trade. International trade is vital to Canada's prosperity, and protectionism doesn't work over the long run.

I challenge you to name even one social program in Canada that has actually been lost because of free trade. Just name one.

Anonymous said...

"I think we should let Sasktel have a community station. "

I agree. I don't believe it should be any of the business of the CRTC to regulate cable or TV providers.

And further, I believe the CTF should be expending its efforts to dismantle the CRTC. The CRTC's practice of regulation serves no purpose, is outdated, and threatens the freedom of Canadians to express themselves and the culture of Canada itself.

Sask.Taxpayers Federation said...

Medicare,Canadian Wheat Board,Canada Post,Our Water resources, Unemployment insurance,CBC, Our utilities. On and on.Forget it once and Eastern Mentality always an Eastern Mentality. If you haven't figured it ou by now you never will. Keep voting Tory then Liberal then Tory and wonder why Canada is going to hell in hand basket. Your arrogance holds you back.

Anonymous said...

"Eastern mentality"? No such thing.
"socialist mentatlity"; there is such a thing.
"crazy socialist mentality"? Unfortunately, there is such a thing.

Anonymous said...

Just read on CBC about how SK population dropped by 2000 in the last quarter of '05, the largest drop of any province, and the only Western province whose population declined.
The root cause of this decline is, IMHO, mean, angry, overzealous, envious socialists.

Sask.Taxpayers Federation said...

My wife is a supervisor in the health district. There are dozens of postings that go unfilled. I think the problem is more than just the gov't. She thinks our wages are too low in the private sector to attract workers. Alberta salaries are higher. That's the bottom line. She's followed these trends for years. And young people follow the yellow brick road to Alberta. They look at salaries and that's all that matters.

Anonymous said...

I could call myself "Anonymous" (even though i sign my name always at the bottom) or i could go by s dumb made up name that reveals nothing. (Who are you Sask. Taxpayers Federation, who I gather is not a supporter of the CTF)

BUT, back to the task at hand... The NDP will never run the country - then we would be in ruin. (all that would be left is to pick the colour of our handbasket)

I am surprised a good Prairie NDP'er (whom I have some resepct for) would be so enamored with a big-city champagne-socialist like Jack Layton.

Yes, I do support free trade - you and David Orchard can banter about its faults all you like and ignore its many more strengths. This is your choice.

Harris didn't leave the government in a mess, but he refused to bend to moronic special interests who always want MORE MORE MORE.

Have you ever met a program/department/special interest that said "No thanks. We have enough money to do everything we need to do. In fact, please cut a little from next next year's budget?" Didn't think so.

The NDP are sooo concerned with people that they sacrifice future generations of all for the NOW-demands of a few. This is why they are a 3rd-place fringe party in Ontario and in most regions of the country.

As for the "eastern arrogance" comment, my guess is that the only way we'd rid ourselves of this is to vote NDP? Then we would "like people?"

HA!

Anonymous said...

"Medicare,Canadian Wheat Board,Canada Post,Our Water resources, Unemployment insurance,CBC, Our utilities"

Of all of these, only two are actual social programs (UI, now called EI, and Medicare).

Not sure how they are affected by free trade?

-Willard

Anonymous said...

Hi
On sunday I was approached to do camera for the new Regina Sasktel Community network..He said contract awarded (he got) and he has started working for channel. All with my TAXMONEY.
No thanks

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